HHQ, gatekeeper for Judaism at information underground

Fighting super-criminals- Exposing their crimes

I recently tried to start a discussion on how traditional Judaism relates to the plans for the New World Order at the Information underground forum.

All of the posts involved are contained in the file “Coffinman walks from The information underground.doc”.

What happened was that HHQ stormed in as gatekeeper and slammed the gates shut on the discussion.

I was accused of “persistent and aggravated nature of your pursuance of your personal and divisive agenda.” and “promoting and instigating dissension through deliberate manipulation of facts.”

These are serious allegations which I will address here.

My only actions after the “first and last warning” from HHQ was to answer him and post the warning and answer in the relevant threads so that folks on the forum knew what had happened.

The next thing I knew I had been banned and could not access the board any more.

Here is my reply to HHQ, which he banned me for:

I disagree with your judgement.
You accuse me of:

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deliberate manipulation of facts

.....which is actually the antithesis of what I stand for.
Also.....
It is apparent from my last post that I was basically refusing to deepen the discussion here, but giving reasons, as another member had raised a subject.
I had thought it was clear that I had accepted your moderator's decision.
However you need not worry about me any more, I will not post here again, other than to post my warning and reply (in the 3 relevant threads) so that others are aware of why I have stopped posting.

It seems that not only had I raised a subject that HHQ did not want to be discussed, but also that he did not want any attention drawn to that fact.

So I was accused firstly of “persistent and aggravated nature of your pursuance of your personal and divisive agenda.”.

And secondly of “promoting and instigating dissension through deliberate manipulation of facts.”

Well people who are fighting against gatekeepers have to have persistence otherwise they will just be made to shut up. As to the “aggravated nature” of that persistence I fail to see how HHQ felt it was “aggravated”. I was making my points clearly, respectfully and without malice. I did not purport to know the answers to the questions that I was raising, I was saying that this was a subject that needed to be discussed. It seems that arguing for the discussion of possibly the most important issue in the World, to Jews and Goy alike was seen by HHQ as a hostile act. He also felt that such a pursuance was personal rather than objective.

Yes it is a fact that not all people who could be defined as “Jewish” are a part of a dastardly World plot.

But it is also a fact that many of them are.

In fact, such is the secrecy within Judaism that it is only due to those “Jews” who oppose the totalitarianism of Judaism that we know much of what we do.

The publication “Book - Jewish History by Israel Shahak 1994.pdf”, contained in the torrent folder is an excellent example.

In the book, the author states:

“Without a discussion of the prevalent Jewish attitudes to non-Jews, even

the concept of Israel as 'a Jewish state', as Israel formally defines itself,

cannot be understood. The widespread misconception that Israel, even

without considering its regime in the Occupied Territories, is a true democracy

arises from the refusal to confront the significance of the term 'a Jewish state'

for non-Jews. In my view, Israel as a Jewish state constitutes a danger not

only to itself and its inhabitants, but to all Jews and to all other peoples and

states in the Middle East and beyond. I also consider that other Middle

Eastern states or entities which define themselves as 'Arab' or 'Muslim', like

the Israeli self-definition as being 'Jewish', likewise constitute a danger.

However, while this danger is widely discussed, the danger inherent in the

Jewish character of the State of Israel is not……..

The influence on 'Jewish ideology' on many Jews will be stronger the more

it is hidden from public discussion. Such discussion will, it is hoped, lead

people take the same attitude towards Jewish chauvinism and the contempt

displayed by so many Jews towards non-Jews (which will be documented

below) as that commonly taken towards antisemitism and all other forms of

xenophobia, chauvinism and racism. It is justly assumed that only the full

exposition, not only of antisemitism, but also of its historical roots, can be the

basis of struggle against it. Likewise I am assuming that only the full

exposition of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism can be the basis of

struggle against those phenomena. This is especially true today when,

contrary to the situation prevailing fifty or sixty years ago, the political

influence of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism is much greater than

that of antisemitism. But there is also another important consideration. I

strongly believe that antisemitism and Jewish chauvinism can only be fought

simultaneously.”

HHQ opposed this outlook entirely. He described it as a “divisive agenda”.

I will agree with the term divisive agenda because if there are enemies of truth hidden within the truth movement, and they are exposed, then they are cut away from us, like rotten wood is cut away. This practice was once described as “driving wedges”, which I was accused of when exposing Judy Wood as a fraud. My reply was that “Where irreconcilable differences exist, then wedges must be driven”.

It seems that for HHQ, political unity is more important than truth.

As for “promoting and instigating dissension through deliberate manipulation of facts.”, Isn’t “promoting and instigating dissension” against corrupt leadership what the struggle for freedom and democracy is supposedly about?

But the worst smear that HHQ laid on me was to accuse me of “deliberate manipulation of facts.”

I will state that that was an outright lie and smear from HHQ.

Perhaps if there are idiots that will read his pronouncements without looking at the subject matter themselves they might believe him.

HHQ will be totally unable to demonstrate where I exercised “deliberate manipulation of facts.” He used an outright lie to smear me and justify banning me from the forum.

The fact that he banned me shows that he did not want to have to answer further, even though I had told him that I would not be posting to the board any more.

HHQ is not only a gatekeeper, but a coward, afraid of having to answer simple logic on this most important of all issues.

If I were simply wrong, and he had the right analysis, then he would have used the thread to demonstrate that and thereby educate those that read the thread.

So what is it that HHQ is gatekeeping for?

Well HHQ presents as an arch “anti-Zionist” and claims that his fight is against a small group of criminals, called “Zionists” that control the World economy and have created Israel. Outside of this criminal group, the rest of World Jewry is an abused population that is used by the “Zionists” to achieve their goals.

Well there is another outlook to consider.

It has become apparent to me that those who call themselves “anti-Zionists” for the most part allege that Zionism is the result of a collaboration by a “group of criminals” and does not actually reflect on Judaism. They then refuse to discuss “The Jewish question” and label those that do as “divisive” or “anti-Semetic”. Well that is not the case. There is manipulation afoot and those who spend time and energy researching it would at some point like to arrive at an understanding of what is going on.

These “anti-Zionists” also remove the important identity of Israel as a JEWISH STATE by constantly referring to it as a ZIONIST STATE.

No!

Zionism wishes to create Israel as a Jewish state, and Israel IS that JEWISH STATE.

I will give you another excerpt from Jewish History by Israel Shahak, which I urge everybody to read:

The principle of Israel as 'a Jewish state' was supremely important to Israeli

politicians from the inception of the state and was inculcated into the Jewish

population by all conceivable ways. When, in the early 1980s, a tiny minority

of Israeli Jews emerged which opposed this concept, a Constitutional Law

(that is, a law overriding provisions of other laws, which cannot be revoked

except by a special procedure) was passed in 1985 by an enormous majority

of the Knesset.

By this law no party whose program openly opposes the principle of 'a

Jewish state' or proposes to change it by democratic means, is allowed to

participate in the elections to the Knesset. I myself strongly oppose this

constitutional principle. The legal consequence for me is that I cannot belong,

in the state of which I am a citizen, to a party having principles with which I

would agree and which is allowed to participate in Knesset elections. Even

this example shows that the State of Israel is not a democracy due to the

application of a Jewish ideology directed against all non-Jews and those Jews

who oppose this ideology. But the danger which this dominant ideology

represents is not limited to domestic affairs. It also influences Israeli foreign

policies. This danger will continue to grow, as long as two currently operating

developments are being strengthened: the increase in the Jewish character of

Israel and the increase in its power, particularly in nuclear power. Another

ominous factor is that Israeli influence in the USA political establishment is

also increasing. Hence accurate information about Judaism, and especially

about the treatment of non-Jews by Israel, is now not only important, but

politically vital as well.

Let me begin with the official Israeli definition of the term 'Jewish', illustrating

the crucial difference between Israel as 'a Jewish state' and the majority of

other states. By this official definition, Israel 'belongs' to persons who are

defined by the Israeli authorities as 'Jewish', irrespective of where they live,

and to them alone. On the other hand, Israel doesn't officially 'belong' to its

non-Jewish citizens, whose status is considered even officially as inferior.

This means in practice that if members of a Peruvian tribe are converted to

Judaism, and thus regarded as Jewish, they are entitled at once to become

Israeli citizens and benefit from the approximately 70 per cent of the West

Bank land (and the 92 per cent of the area of Israel proper), officially

designated only for the benefit of Jews. All non-Jews ( not only all

Palestinians) are prohibited from benefiting from those lands. (The prohibition

applies even to Israeli Arabs who served in the Israeli army and reached a

high rank.) The case involving Peruvian converts to Judaism actually occurred

a few years ago. The newly-created Jews were settled in the West Bank, near

Nablus, on land from which non-Jews are officially excluded. All Israeli

governments are taking enormous political risks, including the risk of war, so

that such settlements, composed exclusively of persons who are defined as

'Jewish' (and not 'Israeli' as most of the media mendaciously claims) would be

subject to only 'Jewish' authority.

I suspect that the Jews of the USA or of Britain would regard it as

antisemitic if Christians would propose that the USA or the United Kingdom

should become a 'Christian state', belonging only to citizens officially defined

as 'Christians'. The consequence of such doctrine is that Jews converting to

Christianity would become full citizens because of their conversion. It should

be recalled that the benefits of conversions are well known to Jews from their

own history. When the Christian and the Islamic states used to discriminate

against all persons not belonging to the religion of the state, including the

Jews, the discrimination against Jews was at once removed by their

conversion. But a non-Jew discriminated against by the State of Israel will

cease to be so treated the moment he or she converts to Judaism. This simply

shows that the same kind of exclusivity that is regarded by a majority of the

diaspora Jews as antisemitic is regarded by the majority of all Jews as

Jewish. To oppose both antisemitism and Jewish chauvinism is widely

regarded among Jews as a 'self-hatred', a concept which I regard as

nonsensical.

So to separate the issues of Zionism and Judaism is wrong.

Zionism has created a Jewish state.

That has been it’s material role.

Now a brief note here:

There are those that will say that the whole of Judaism was invented by an elite caste in the very beginning, and has been used by them to achieve their goals, which are to end in World domination, and that the ordinary Jews are merely pawns in the game. Well perhaps that may be, but it is an entirely separate issue from that of the beliefs of Judaism itself. If the goals of Judaism are malevolent towards all non-Jews in the World, then those that embrace those beliefs that demand those goals are necessarily malevolent towards all other people.

So which Jews are benign, and which ones are malevolent?

Contained in the torrent is a video file called “Mosiach the creed.flv”. The original poster of that video attached the following note:

Moshiach - The Creed.

"I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the moshiach, and though he may

tarry, still I await him every day." - Principle 12 of Rambam's Thirteen Principles of Faith.

The main track of this DVD NTSC (other tracks are present) is a fascinating

presentation by ordained Rabbi Mordechai, who kindly shares with us the

understandings and goals of what appears to be : Rabbinic Judaism.

At the end of each session, Rabbi Mordechai tells us to "pray in unison for the coming of MOSHIACH, the real jewish messiah".

Moschiach, the long awaited Jewish messiah, is described by jewfaq.org as follows:

_ "The word "moshiach" does not mean "savior". The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought."

_ "Belief in the eventual coming of the moshiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism."

_ "In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of

the elements of the coming of the moshiach : ingathering of the exiles..."

_ "The moshiach will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other

supernatural being."

_ "The moshiach will be a great political leader."

_ "The moshiach will be a great military leader, who will win battles for

Israel."

_ "The moshiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem. HE WILL ESTABLISH A GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL THAT WILL BE THE

CENTER OF ALL WORLD GOVERNMENT."

Some researchers assert that those beliefs and understandings play a key role in shaping the course of our world today (...WWI, WWII, 9-11, iraq, Lebanon, Iran, "War On Terror"...etc).

Another group seldom talked about are the Christian-Zionists. They selfishly believe that the sooner the planet is turned to a global stage of chaos and death (WWIII), the sooner "Jesus will come back and take them away to heaven" (i.e. : The Rapture). The Christian-Zionists and Churches are fully lending their moral and material support to Moshiach's minions.

Educating The Amalekites...One Goy at a Time.

Note : If the Jewish People believe in the coming of a messiah and are waiting

for him, it is their right. BUT, if the researchers who have studied the subject are right, the world of the gentiles is being turned up side down for the only reason to set the world stage for the appearance of Moshiach.

Why should the gentiles be dragged into wars, poverty, misery, financial crisis, stress, terrorism, grief, pain, hunger, death, hate, police surveillance

societies...etc, so that the Jewish Messianic age can come to fruition, where a jewish messiah will rule the world and rule over the gentiles from Jerusalem ?

The most striking parts of that document being the quotes from Jewfaq.org:

"Belief in the eventual coming of the moshiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism."

_ "In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of

the elements of the coming of the moshiach.

And:

“HE WILL ESTABLISH A GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL THAT WILL BE THE

CENTER OF ALL WORLD GOVERNMENT."

A “basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism.”?

To be malevolent towards all other nations?

"In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of

the elements of the coming of the moshiach.”

It would appear that all those that recite this prayer are praying for malevolence to all gentiles and the establishment of Jewish World rule.

It would appear to me that to be a “benevolent Jew”, one would have to renounce the tenets of traditional Judaism.

I had hoped to start the discussion, where those Jews who belonged to the forum whom HHQ did not want upsetting would be able to contribute freely, so that this issue could be discussed, however, as you have seen that discussion was quashed by HHQ.